1/2 c Sugar

1/2 c Brown sugar, packed

1/3 c Honey

1/3 c Butter or margarine

1/3 c Shortening

1 1/2 ts Salt

2 Eggs

1 c Herman sourdough starter; se

1 1/2 c Applesauce

1 ts Vanilla

1 ts Rum extract

1 1/3 c All-purpose flour; white

1/2 c Whole wheat flour

3/4 ts Ground cinnamon

1/2 ts Ground allspice

1/2 ts Ground cloves

1/2 ts Baking soda

1 ts Baking powder

1 c Chopped walnuts; optional

1 c Raisins; optional

Cream together the sugars, honey, butter, shortening and salt until light and fluffly. Add eggs, one at a time, mixing thoroughly. Add Herman starter, applesauce, vanilla and rum flavoring. In another bowl, combine flours, spices, baking soda and baking powder. Mix thoroughly with a wire whisk. Fold into creamed mixture. Fold in chopped walnuts and raisins if using them. Pour into a greased and floured 10-inch tube pan or use a bundt pan. Bake at 350 degrees for 75-80

minutes or until a toothpick inserted near the center comes out clean. Cool in pan a few minutes before removing. -----